update 5456 5472 fails installation language er

Machine upgraded from XP Media Edition w/ SP2 to 5456 just fine. Has been running well. Went to upgrade from 5456 to 5472 and upgrade fails. Says installation language (US English) and DVD (burned from same machines) and media language are different. No further information. Will not work properly either from DVD or media contents copied to HDD. System had been set to Australian English but was set back; did not cause a problem with 5456.
Anyone else have this? Any thoughts on work around?

Russell--
Never ever upgrade (update is not the word you meant to use--it was upgrade) a Windows OS (XP or anything else) to "Vista."
My thoughts on a workaround scenario are this: Clean Install
Do Not put Upgrade and Vista in the same sentence, room, or box. I don't care what the MSFT Vista team purports to support or not. They're clean installing on their little tablets and their little laptops and their boyfriend and girlfriend's machine and their home machines.
Upgrade is what they urge the unwashed masses to do. Don't be a sucker.
MSFT has continued to ask people to upgrade who are using the Betas for a few months. The private and public news groups have been replete with train crashes as the result of said upgrades and scores of pleas I fully believe they are going to have a bitch of a time stabilizing Vista upgrade scenarios but because money is the prime objective (I know shock and more awe)--they will slap RTM on some build come some month in 2007 and enterprise some month late 2006 (and enterprise will have what you don't have Russell --scroes of little MSFT elves to cater to them, scores of their own IT elves, and tailored images to mass install.
My advice is:
Don't Upgrade anything to Vista ever. Clean install it. Clean install it. Did I mention clean install? I don't care how many Easy BCDs and Vista Boot Pro the Sequels we link for you. Clean Install it. That's best for a Windows OS given the relative instability that will ensue no matter who you are and what you do to maintain it.
CH
*******
Congrats to the US of A who on 7/25/06 after nearly 3000 soldier deaths, 25000 serious major injuries and between 100,000-250,000 Iraquies blown up (averaging 50 per day blown up each and every day) announced they are "sending in more troops" (not my family; not Dick's family ya think we're friggin nuts?) after intrepidly resisting. The US can look forward to endless years of this.
Congrats to Condi Rice who has achieved perfect symmetry. Call her Condi Sister Zero.
Zero is the on point operative number.
She has accomplished zero in 6 years except for chaos, and to make her country the most hated at any time in history. She has accomplished zero in the Middle East as Israel does the job the US won't and can't--take out terrorists via guerilla warfare deeds instead of endless specious words. She has zero countries volunteering zero troops to be the "peace keepers" and get blown up by Hezbullah if they were--it's called "fish in a barrel" to continue the fish thread. The same number of volunteers to be peacekeepers equals the number of children from West Wing families and Congress and Senate families who have signed up to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. Zero.

"Russell" wrote in message

Machine upgraded from XP Media Edition w/ SP2 to 5456 just fine. Has been running well. Went to upgrade from 5456 to 5472 and upgrade fails. Says installation language (US English) and DVD (burned from same machines) and media language are different. No further information. Will not work properly either from DVD or media contents copied to HDD. System had been set to Australian English but was set back; did not cause a problem with 5456.
Anyone else have this? Any thoughts on work around?

Russell wrote:

Machine upgraded from XP Media Edition w/ SP2 to 5456 just fine. Has been running well. Went to upgrade from 5456 to 5472 and upgrade fails. Says installation language (US English) and DVD (burned from same machines) and media language are different. No further information. Will not work properly either from DVD or media contents copied to HDD. System had been set to Australian English but was set back; did not cause a problem with 5456.
Anyone else have this? Any thoughts on work around?

The only possible reason to try an upgrade is to test it. Once you are finished testing it and submitting any bugs you find you need to do a clean install. The only OS upgrade I would ever recommend is XP Home to XP Pro. I have even seen occasional problems from that. From one beta build to another beta build of any software is just asking for trouble. Backup your data, format the Vista partition, install the newer build of Vista, install programs, restore data.
-- Kerry MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User www.VistaHelp.ca

An upgrade is a clean install. That's what they say.
http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install The users will put their DVD in, boot off it and run the setup and it will look to them like they are doing an install, but what it is really doing is grabbing the install.wim and executing that as an upgrade or clean install depending on what the user wants.
Dan Warne: So it’s basically decompressing a preinstalled version of Vista onto the hard drive, and when you do an upgrade, it’s basically putting a clean install of Vista on there and migrating your XP settings into Vista, right?
John Pritchard: Yes, that’s right, it’s a compressed image. We will ship it with fast compression, and then users just need to have the space on the hard disk for that image to be offloaded and decompressed.
There’s also the advantage that it is file-based, not sector-based image, so you can install the image onto your hard drive without overwriting other data.
-Michael
"CH" wrote in message

Russell--
Never ever upgrade (update is not the word you meant to use--it was upgrade) a Windows OS (XP or anything else) to "Vista."
My thoughts on a workaround scenario are this: Clean Install
Do Not put Upgrade and Vista in the same sentence, room, or box. I don't care what the MSFT Vista team purports to support or not. They're clean installing on their little tablets and their little laptops and their boyfriend and girlfriend's machine and their home machines.
Upgrade is what they urge the unwashed masses to do. Don't be a sucker.
MSFT has continued to ask people to upgrade who are using the Betas for a few months. The private and public news groups have been replete with train crashes as the result of said upgrades and scores of pleas I fully believe they are going to have a bitch of a time stabilizing Vista upgrade scenarios but because money is the prime objective (I know shock and more awe)--they will slap RTM on some build come some month in 2007 and enterprise some month late 2006 (and enterprise will have what you don't have Russell --scroes of little MSFT elves to cater to them, scores of their own IT elves, and tailored images to mass install.
My advice is:
Don't Upgrade anything to Vista ever. Clean install it. Clean install it. Did I mention clean install? I don't care how many Easy BCDs and Vista Boot Pro the Sequels we link for you. Clean Install it. That's best for a Windows OS given the relative instability that will ensue no matter who you are and what you do to maintain it.
CH
*******
Congrats to the US of A who on 7/25/06 after nearly 3000 soldier deaths, 25000 serious major injuries and between 100,000-250,000 Iraquies blown up (averaging 50 per day blown up each and every day) announced they are "sending in more troops" (not my family; not Dick's family ya think we're friggin nuts?) after intrepidly resisting. The US can look forward to endless years of this.
Congrats to Condi Rice who has achieved perfect symmetry. Call her Condi Sister Zero.
Zero is the on point operative number.
She has accomplished zero in 6 years except for chaos, and to make her country the most hated at any time in history. She has accomplished zero in the Middle East as Israel does the job the US won't and can't--take out terrorists via guerilla warfare deeds instead of endless specious words. She has zero countries volunteering zero troops to be the "peace keepers" and get blown up by Hezbullah if they were--it's called "fish in a barrel" to continue the fish thread. The same number of volunteers to be peacekeepers equals the number of children from West Wing families and Congress and Senate families who have signed up to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. Zero.

"Russell" wrote in message Machine upgraded from XP Media Edition w/ SP2 to 5456 just fine. Has been running well. Went to upgrade from 5456 to 5472 and upgrade fails. Says installation language (US English) and DVD (burned from same machines) and media language are different. No further information. Will not work properly either from DVD or media contents copied to HDD. System had been set to Australian English but was set back; did not cause a problem with 5456.
Anyone else have this? Any thoughts on work around?

Michael--
I've been reading that and getting continually onfused by that. But particularly with the upgrades from XP the results seem to be problematic in a significant number of upgrades. I'm not sure if the upgrades from Vista build to Vista build work better statstically with a bunch of boxes.
I don't know if it was in some of the material you posted the last two days on WIM. That was good stuff, as were the links you and Mark posted the other day. But don't you agree there have been a significant amount of problems with the upgrades and a lot of lamenting that people can't get back their XP when they try to upgrade XP to Vista?
I understand that MSFT has a need to get their upgrades from XP tested and wants people to do this (preferably on a test drive or test box) so they can get the feedback, but as much as I wanted to I resisted the temptation.
CH

"MICHAEL" wrote in message

An upgrade is a clean install. That's what they say.
http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install The users will put their DVD in, boot off it and run the setup and it will look to them like they are doing an install, but what it is really doing is grabbing the install.wim and executing that as an upgrade or clean install depending on what the user wants.
Dan Warne: So it’s basically decompressing a preinstalled version of Vista onto the hard drive, and when you do an upgrade, it’s basically putting a clean install of Vista on there and migrating your XP settings into Vista, right?
John Pritchard: Yes, that’s right, it’s a compressed image. We will ship it with fast compression, and then users just need to have the space on the hard disk for that image to be offloaded and decompressed.
There’s also the advantage that it is file-based, not sector-based image, so you can install the image onto your hard drive without overwriting other data.
-Michael
"CH" wrote in message Russell--
Never ever upgrade (update is not the word you meant to use--it was upgrade) a Windows OS (XP or anything else) to "Vista."
My thoughts on a workaround scenario are this: Clean Install
Do Not put Upgrade and Vista in the same sentence, room, or box. I don't care what the MSFT Vista team purports to support or not. They're clean installing on their little tablets and their little laptops and their boyfriend and girlfriend's machine and their home machines.
Upgrade is what they urge the unwashed masses to do. Don't be a sucker.
MSFT has continued to ask people to upgrade who are using the Betas for a few months. The private and public news groups have been replete with train crashes as the result of said upgrades and scores of pleas I fully believe they are going to have a bitch of a time stabilizing Vista upgrade scenarios but because money is the prime objective (I know shock and more awe)--they will slap RTM on some build come some month in 2007 and enterprise some month late 2006 (and enterprise will have what you don't have Russell --scroes of little MSFT elves to cater to them, scores of their own IT elves, and tailored images to mass install.
My advice is:
Don't Upgrade anything to Vista ever. Clean install it. Clean install it. Did I mention clean install? I don't care how many Easy BCDs and Vista Boot Pro the Sequels we link for you. Clean Install it. That's best for a Windows OS given the relative instability that will ensue no matter who you are and what you do to maintain it.
CH
*******
Congrats to the US of A who on 7/25/06 after nearly 3000 soldier deaths, 25000 serious major injuries and between 100,000-250,000 Iraquies blown up (averaging 50 per day blown up each and every day) announced they are "sending in more troops" (not my family; not Dick's family ya think we're friggin nuts?) after intrepidly resisting. The US can look forward to endless years of this.
Congrats to Condi Rice who has achieved perfect symmetry. Call her Condi Sister Zero.
Zero is the on point operative number.
She has accomplished zero in 6 years except for chaos, and to make her country the most hated at any time in history. She has accomplished zero in the Middle East as Israel does the job the US won't and can't--take out terrorists via guerilla warfare deeds instead of endless specious words. She has zero countries volunteering zero troops to be the "peace keepers" and get blown up by Hezbullah if they were--it's called "fish in a barrel" to continue the fish thread. The same number of volunteers to be peacekeepers equals the number of children from West Wing families and Congress and Senate families who have signed up to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. Zero.

"Russell" wrote in message Machine upgraded from XP Media Edition w/ SP2 to 5456 just fine. Has been running well. Went to upgrade from 5456 to 5472 and upgrade fails. Says installation language (US English) and DVD (burned from same machines) and media language are different. No further information. Will not work properly either from DVD or media contents copied to HDD. System had been set to Australian English but was set back; did not cause a problem with 5456.
Anyone else have this? Any thoughts on work around?

Just for the record- I have always recommended that people do a clean install. I will probably try the upgrade "clean install" of Vista, just for testing purposes. But, for the time being, if someone was to ask me- I would tell them to do a *real* clean install.
The Vista install via an image format seems to be a great idea, clever and a huge step forward. We'll see how it pans out in the coming months. For now, I agree with you- start from scratch and do a clean install.
Take care, Chad.
-Michael
"CH" wrote in message

Michael--
I've been reading that and getting continually onfused by that. But particularly with the upgrades from XP the results seem to be problematic in a significant number of upgrades. I'm not sure if the upgrades from Vista build to Vista build work better statstically with a bunch of boxes.
I don't know if it was in some of the material you posted the last two days on WIM. That was good stuff, as were the links you and Mark posted the other day. But don't you agree there have been a significant amount of problems with the upgrades and a lot of lamenting that people can't get back their XP when they try to upgrade XP to Vista?
I understand that MSFT has a need to get their upgrades from XP tested and wants people to do this (preferably on a test drive or test box) so they can get the feedback, but as much as I wanted to I resisted the temptation.
CH

"MICHAEL" wrote in message An upgrade is a clean install. That's what they say.
http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install The users will put their DVD in, boot off it and run the setup and it will look to them like they are doing an install, but what it is really doing is grabbing the install.wim and executing that as an upgrade or clean install depending on what the user wants.
Dan Warne: So it’s basically decompressing a preinstalled version of Vista onto the hard drive, and when you do an upgrade, it’s basically putting a clean install of Vista on there and migrating your XP settings into Vista, right?
John Pritchard: Yes, that’s right, it’s a compressed image. We will ship it with fast compression, and then users just need to have the space on the hard disk for that image to be offloaded and decompressed.
There’s also the advantage that it is file-based, not sector-based image, so you can install the image onto your hard drive without overwriting other data.
-Michael
"CH" wrote in message Russell--
Never ever upgrade (update is not the word you meant to use--it was upgrade) a Windows OS (XP or anything else) to "Vista."
My thoughts on a workaround scenario are this: Clean Install
Do Not put Upgrade and Vista in the same sentence, room, or box. I don't care what the MSFT Vista team purports to support or not. They're clean installing on their little tablets and their little laptops and their boyfriend and girlfriend's machine and their home machines.
Upgrade is what they urge the unwashed masses to do. Don't be a sucker.
MSFT has continued to ask people to upgrade who are using the Betas for a few months. The private and public news groups have been replete with train crashes as the result of said upgrades and scores of pleas I fully believe they are going to have a bitch of a time stabilizing Vista upgrade scenarios but because money is the prime objective (I know shock and more awe)--they will slap RTM on some build come some month in 2007 and enterprise some month late 2006 (and enterprise will have what you don't have Russell --scroes of little MSFT elves to cater to them, scores of their own IT elves, and tailored images to mass install.
My advice is:
Don't Upgrade anything to Vista ever. Clean install it. Clean install it. Did I mention clean install? I don't care how many Easy BCDs and Vista Boot Pro the Sequels we link for you. Clean Install it. That's best for a Windows OS given the relative instability that will ensue no matter who you are and what you do to maintain it.
CH
*******
Congrats to the US of A who on 7/25/06 after nearly 3000 soldier deaths, 25000 serious major injuries and between 100,000-250,000 Iraquies blown up (averaging 50 per day blown up each and every day) announced they are "sending in more troops" (not my family; not Dick's family ya think we're friggin nuts?) after intrepidly resisting. The US can look forward to endless years of this.
Congrats to Condi Rice who has achieved perfect symmetry. Call her Condi Sister Zero.
Zero is the on point operative number.
She has accomplished zero in 6 years except for chaos, and to make her country the most hated at any time in history. She has accomplished zero in the Middle East as Israel does the job the US won't and can't--take out terrorists via guerilla warfare deeds instead of endless specious words. She has zero countries volunteering zero troops to be the "peace keepers" and get blown up by Hezbullah if they were--it's called "fish in a barrel" to continue the fish thread. The same number of volunteers to be peacekeepers equals the number of children from West Wing families and Congress and Senate families who have signed up to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. Zero.

"Russell" wrote in message Machine upgraded from XP Media Edition w/ SP2 to 5456 just fine. Has been running well. Went to upgrade from 5456 to 5472 and upgrade fails. Says installation language (US English) and DVD (burned from same machines) and media language are different. No further information. Will not work properly either from DVD or media contents copied to HDD. System had been set to Australian English but was set back; did not cause a problem with 5456.
Anyone else have this? Any thoughts on work around?

I have been testing today with some really nasty vhd's that I have polluted with all kinds of crazy downloads and not updated at WU for a year (I use vm's to check stuff out). Vista will do a pretty good job upgrading but the advisory on programs that need to be updated should be changed to mandatory uninstall. I understand why MS would be reluctant to do that. A lot of folks have no way to replace a program they downloaded with a product key, etc. I save my downloads and keys to an external hard drive, but how many users do that? Some of these programs, like MSN9 and Norton just will not uninstall automatically under Vista even in Safe Boot. Casual users will not manually remove such programs.
Having said that, my observation is that a user has to blow right past many opportunities to identify and correct potential problems and I think we are getting exactly those folks here. They can represent only a tiny fraction of those who try the upgrade path, so my guess is PSS is going to be able to handle the calls. I am more comfortable that the upgrade assist tools are working and are pretty accurate. These folks just aren't using them.
"MICHAEL" wrote in message

Just for the record- I have always recommended that people do a clean install. I will probably try the upgrade "clean install" of Vista, just for testing purposes. But, for the time being, if someone was to ask me- I would tell them to do a *real* clean install.
The Vista install via an image format seems to be a great idea, clever and a huge step forward. We'll see how it pans out in the coming months. For now, I agree with you- start from scratch and do a clean install.
Take care, Chad.
-Michael
"CH" wrote in message Michael--
I've been reading that and getting continually onfused by that. But particularly with the upgrades from XP the results seem to be problematic in a significant number of upgrades. I'm not sure if the upgrades from Vista build to Vista build work better statstically with a bunch of boxes.
I don't know if it was in some of the material you posted the last two days on WIM. That was good stuff, as were the links you and Mark posted the other day. But don't you agree there have been a significant amount of problems with the upgrades and a lot of lamenting that people can't get back their XP when they try to upgrade XP to Vista?
I understand that MSFT has a need to get their upgrades from XP tested and wants people to do this (preferably on a test drive or test box) so they can get the feedback, but as much as I wanted to I resisted the temptation.
CH

"MICHAEL" wrote in message An upgrade is a clean install. That's what they say.
http://www.apcstart.com/site/dwarne/2006/07/773/inside-vistas-new-image-based-install The users will put their DVD in, boot off it and run the setup and it will look to them like they are doing an install, but what it is really doing is grabbing the install.wim and executing that as an upgrade or clean install depending on what the user wants.
Dan Warne: So it’s basically decompressing a preinstalled version of Vista onto the hard drive, and when you do an upgrade, it’s basically putting a clean install of Vista on there and migrating your XP settings into Vista, right?
John Pritchard: Yes, that’s right, it’s a compressed image. We will ship it with fast compression, and then users just need to have the space on the hard disk for that image to be offloaded and decompressed.
There’s also the advantage that it is file-based, not sector-based image, so you can install the image onto your hard drive without overwriting other data.
-Michael
"CH" wrote in message Russell--
Never ever upgrade (update is not the word you meant to use--it was upgrade) a Windows OS (XP or anything else) to "Vista."
My thoughts on a workaround scenario are this: Clean Install
Do Not put Upgrade and Vista in the same sentence, room, or box. I don't care what the MSFT Vista team purports to support or not. They're clean installing on their little tablets and their little laptops and their boyfriend and girlfriend's machine and their home machines.
Upgrade is what they urge the unwashed masses to do. Don't be a sucker.
MSFT has continued to ask people to upgrade who are using the Betas for a few months. The private and public news groups have been replete with train crashes as the result of said upgrades and scores of pleas I fully believe they are going to have a bitch of a time stabilizing Vista upgrade scenarios but because money is the prime objective (I know shock and more awe)--they will slap RTM on some build come some month in 2007 and enterprise some month late 2006 (and enterprise will have what you don't have Russell --scroes of little MSFT elves to cater to them, scores of their own IT elves, and tailored images to mass install.
My advice is:
Don't Upgrade anything to Vista ever. Clean install it. Clean install it. Did I mention clean install? I don't care how many Easy BCDs and Vista Boot Pro the Sequels we link for you. Clean Install it. That's best for a Windows OS given the relative instability that will ensue no matter who you are and what you do to maintain it.
CH
*******
Congrats to the US of A who on 7/25/06 after nearly 3000 soldier deaths, 25000 serious major injuries and between 100,000-250,000 Iraquies blown up (averaging 50 per day blown up each and every day) announced they are "sending in more troops" (not my family; not Dick's family ya think we're friggin nuts?) after intrepidly resisting. The US can look forward to endless years of this.
Congrats to Condi Rice who has achieved perfect symmetry. Call her Condi Sister Zero.
Zero is the on point operative number.
She has accomplished zero in 6 years except for chaos, and to make her country the most hated at any time in history. She has accomplished zero in the Middle East as Israel does the job the US won't and can't--take out terrorists via guerilla warfare deeds instead of endless specious words. She has zero countries volunteering zero troops to be the "peace keepers" and get blown up by Hezbullah if they were--it's called "fish in a barrel" to continue the fish thread. The same number of volunteers to be peacekeepers equals the number of children from West Wing families and Congress and Senate families who have signed up to go to Iraq or Afghanistan. Zero.

"Russell" wrote in message Machine upgraded from XP Media Edition w/ SP2 to 5456 just fine. Has been running well. Went to upgrade from 5456 to 5472 and upgrade fails. Says installation language (US English) and DVD (burned from same machines) and media language are different. No further information. Will not work properly either from DVD or media contents copied to HDD. System had been set to Australian English but was set back; did not cause a problem with 5456.
Anyone else have this? Any thoughts on work around?